The Colorado Supreme Court is removing former President Donald Trump from the primary ballot, saying he is ineligible to be president.
In a stunning and unprecedented decision, the Colorado Supreme Court removed former President Donald Trump from the state’s 2024 ballot, ruling that he isn’t an eligible presidential candidate because of the 14th Amendment’s “insurrectionist ban.”
“Even when the siege on the Capitol was fully underway, he continued to support it by repeatedly demanding that Vice President (Mike) Pence refuse to perform his constitutional duty and by calling Senators to persuade them to stop the counting of electoral votes.
“President Trump’s direct and express efforts, over several months, exhorting his supporters to march to the Capitol to prevent what he falsely characterized as an alleged fraud on the people of this country were indisputably overt and voluntary.”
Ratified after the Civil War, the 14th Amendment says officials who take an oath to support the Constitution are banned from future office if they “engaged in insurrection.” But the wording is vague, it doesn’t explicitly mention the presidency, and has only been applied twice since 1919.
We have full confidence that the U.S. Supreme Court will quickly rule in our favor and finally put an end to these unAmerican lawsuits,” Trump campaign spokesperson Steven Cheung said in a statement.
Chief Justice Brian Boatright, one of the three dissenters on the seven-member court, wrote that he believes Colorado election law “was not enacted to decide whether a candidate engaged in insurrection,” and said he would have dismissed the challenge to Trump’s eligibility.
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AP: Colorado Supreme Court bans Trump from the state’s ballot under Constitution’s insurrection clause | @negativenull@startrek.website
Washington Post: Donald Trump is barred from Colorado’s 2024 primary ballot, the state Supreme Court rules | @silence7@slrpnk.net
CNBC: Colorado Supreme Court disqualifies Trump from 2024 ballot, pauses ruling to allow appeal | @return2ozma
NBC News: Colorado Supreme Court kicks Donald Trump off the state’s 2024 ballot for violating the U.S. Constitution. | 18-24-61-B-17-17-4
CNN: Colorado Supreme Court removes Trump from 2024 ballot | A Phlaming Phoenix
CNN:Colorado Supreme Court removes Trump from 2024 ballot based on 14th Amendment’s ‘insurrectionist ban’ | @Boddhisatva
New York Times: Trump Is Disqualified From the 2024 Ballot, Colorado Supreme Court Rules | @silence7@slrpnk.net
I can’t wait for the megathread when he fucking dies. Hopefully, after a few years in a supermax.
He has access to rich people doctors, we’re stuck with him for at least another decade.
The comparably-built Jabba the Hutt was apparently nearly 600 years old in Return of the Jedi. He’s sure to surpass Kissinger, at least, in this timeline.
While fighting Beldorion on Nam Chorios, Leia Organa Solo remembered from her time in Jabba’s palace that Jabba’s fat hid a great deal more muscle than anyone suspected, and for all his apparent sluggishness, he could move deceptively fast across a room, particularly when his temper was roused.
From his Wookiepedia page
Disgusting and horrifying! I hope Trump doesn’t possess the same abilities
I dunno, Elvis and Michael Jackson both had rich people doctors too…
Prince and Michael had the same rich doctor, funny how both of those turned out.
Let’s hope trumps doctor pumps him full of fentanyl.
And his lawyers take over all of his estate like Prince & Michael’s did, it would be like a sitcom.
Nah, capsaicin or something.
Not if he keeps up his high-protein meal plan… Wendy’s is awesome once or twice a month, not a day.
There’s nothing wrong with a little fast food once or twice a meal
Proteins great. It’s the oils and sugars.
And the salt. He’s regularly consuming just godawful amounts of sodium.
he doen’t do wendy’s… he’s a McDonalds kinda guy.
Must be rich to do McDonalds.
They did roughly double their prices (unless you use their app and order the right way).
Hamberders tho.
Jeffrey Epstein had access to rich people doctors too. Look where that got him.
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You could poop in a bucket of water, wait for it to break down, then dump the shit water in the grass over his grave.
Yea I don’t think that will fly with the misses but I like the idea.
True true. Just smash it instead. Less icky.
He won’t last years in a Supermax. Maybe a few mooches, not a few years.
Mooches?
I’m not familiar with the word in that context.
How much is a mooch
That day I will buy the biggest pig and roast it and invite all my friends to party like it’s 1999.
Jesus I miss 1999…
How did you party back then?
Gen X here. 1999 was our time.
We partied, but nobody cared or paid attention.
If convicted, Trump is likely to serve out his federal sentence in Colorado at the Super Max prison at ADX Florence.
Was there a megathread for Kissenger?
There probably was, but I missed the chance to say: Fuck that guy!
It deserves to be said even again.
So say we all
You make it sound like you’re not looking forward to the “Trump Convicted” and "Trump Sentenced’ mega threads
Would love to see it, have my doubts about it coming to pass. Which is pretty fucked.
I’m also looking forward to “Bigfoot found” megathread.
“Bigfoot found, says ‘I’m fine, guys, really.’”
By then there will be several digital AI clones and all the supporters will think he is still alive or faked his own death etc
Hopefully, in the next few minutes
Y’all need to tamper your expectations. He will NEVER go to jail, never. The best we can hope for is to bog him down in legal cases until he dies by big Mac overdose, but am ex president of the u.s is not going to jail.
This comment is how I know you’re a morally superior “good” person.
Shame on Trump for being such a meanie. Fortunately we have “good” people like you to oppose him.
God I love getting the chance to post this image…
dude was so fucking happy and you, within minutes, had to come along and outdo him.
Now play the gif with the caption for all the glory!
All the glory?!
Dayum, that’s crisp
thank you HD remaster! you can really see the reflection of the production crew in the trombone’s bell!
Took a minute to load.
Thank you for your service
Lolol
Colorado Supreme Court be like:
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Yup. Good day.
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This is the Lemmiest possible reaction.
In other news, Colorado confirmed most patriotic state in the union.
If a few more states follow suit, even if they are “safe blue” states, the GOP will have no choice but to drop Trump and pick up the next best candidate. Winning local elections is way more important for Republican-aligned agendas to continue forward, but if people won’t turn out because Trump is off the ballot, it’ll be a blue wave of lower offices flipping. They’ll need to work fast to push the “Trump Bad, X Good” where X is whatever conservative sock puppet they prop up to take his place in hopes of saving their chances at maintaining a multi-state hegemony on state congressional seats.
Colorado leads the way!
Dammit. That uploaded as a jpg instead of a gif.
Thankful for catbox.moe until/unless pict-rs supports them :)
Well done, y’all.
It’s going to be Nicky Hailey to try and stop women from voting for their rights.
Women don’t want her because she’s anti-woman and maga don’t want her because they’re anti-woman. It’s kind of funny.
Weird, and here I thought it had nothing to do with her gender but rather her war mongering. Color me surprised. Happy to have someone insightful like you to tell me how I REALLY feel.
It will go to the SCOTUS first and if they overturn the decision then it’s back to square one. Even if they don’t overturn the decision, it also still depends on enough swing states also barring Trump from running, since Colorado is a blue state that he was never going to win anyway.
What we really want are states like Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania to bar him from running. Then he really would be fucked.
I believe if the Supreme Court chooses to hear this case, then which ever way they rule would be for all states, not just Colorado.
How so? Couldn’t they ignore the insurrection bit and rule that colorado runs its own elections?
Well, it’ll probably be Nikki Haley, right?
Who knows. Primaries have upsets. Clinton was the frontrunner going into 2008. Jeb Bush was Republicans’ presumptive nominee before the 2016 primaries started.
Jeb!
Please clap.
Probably
No chance trump doesn’t win a primary election for Republicans, unless they block him from it.
Surely this will be challenged, and I’m not optimistic about the federal Supreme Court maintaining the same decision, but, fuck, would that be nice.
SCOTUS could decline to take it up. Remember, they were not interested in entertaining Trump’s election fraud claims.
They also have typically demurred to “states’ rights.”
It was a violation of Colorado’s Constitution, so I agree that it’s less than likely they’ll rule in his favor on appeal.Edit: it was ruled as violating the US Constitution. But I still stand by what I said.
I think the Colorado Supreme Court is citing that Trump violated the US Constitution, namely the 14th Amendment.
Whoops, I misread. Got a little too excited.
Weird assumption that the fedsoc SCOTUS will have any consistency in their rulings other than what’s best for rich people
Yeah, I can’t believe so many people are still fooled by their ‘originalism’ story. The originalists have just the most radical interpretations of the law that have no relation to the wording it intent of those that wrote it. Biggest example of that is how they interpret the second amendment.
And also the continual hollowing out of the fourth. The founders would be shocked to see what police can legally do these days (and if they do something illegal, there’s still no consequences, because the people in charge of enforcing the law are apparently the only ones where ignorance of the law is an excuse).
Well, I can tell you what’s not best for rich people. So there’s reasonable hope.
also, the feds don’t decide who goes on the ballots- that’s a state matter. They run the elections. It’ll probably come before SCOTUS only if trump actually wins the regular election.
similar to how, a state can send a congressperson to congress that’s ineligible, but they get kicked out on day one.
If you honestly believe even two of the Tribunal of Six would actually do the right thing, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.
is it the London or Brooklyn bridge? I had my eye on the London Bridge for the longest time.
But it’s always falling down.
Isn’t thst the point of arches? Always falling and nowhere to go, so they’re strong and can hold up heavy…. Uh… stuff?
They only care about “states’ rights” if it suits them. They’re completely happy to trample on the state’s right to regulate other things they don’t like.
They declined to hear about the Illinois AWB.
Still a states rights issue as states control their own elections.
Some of the articles note that Trump wouldn’t need Colorado to win (and didnt win in 2020) and while this sets a wonderful precedent, I’d wager that most would-be-Red-voting states simply wouldn’t recognize this decision.
In that light, this seems a little bit of a hollow victory, but maybe I’m wrong and this is the precipice of something far better.
I suggested elsewhere in the thread that it opens the door to other challenges in other states and that his primary opponents are probably looking into the idea since it’s the only chance they have. Maybe it wouldn’t work in the redder states, but in purple states?
Fingers crossed. I’d love for this chapter of American history to end.
It won’t end unfortunately, it’ll only morph into something else. But who knows, maybe the fall of Trump coinciding with Boomers dying might ripple into a period of relative tranquility. I give it a 1% chance.
those are shounen anime numbers 🕶️
True, but this removes him from the primary. If enough other states do this, you could have Nikki Haley or someone else winning that state. Then again, Colorado’s primary takes place on Super Tuesday (March 5th). By the time, Haley is announced the winner, it would likely be too late to stop Trump. (Assuming nothing else stops him first.)
Current SCotUS is hella corrupt, but I don’t see them denying that the individual States control their own elections.
Yeah, was gonna say that if they rule against that then there’s going to be a fuck ton of challenges to everything they’ve ruled using state’s rights as the ruling.
They don’t have to. They could simply say Jan. 6 wasn’t an insurrection as described by the 14th amendment.
Even with the picture of the Gomer with the Stars and Bars flag in the capital?
Since the Supreme Court has that much power, yes.
The U.S. Supreme Court only has until January 4th to respond.
The Jan. 4th deadline isn’t that meaningful. The ballots don’t even exist yet, so striking him from the ballots on January 4th isn’t actually possible.
The more interesting deadline is not Jan. 4 nor Mar. 5 (the primary election date), but February 12, 2024 because this is when mail-in ballots will be sent. No changes at that point.
Colorado deadline to submit primary candidates for the ballots is January 5th - one day after the deadline.
Yes and that might be important but I think the court could be persuaded to permit a candidate to be added if a higher court ruled that it was constitutionally required. That’s why I think Feb. 12 is the real goal line.
Ah I understand the logic now. The “practical” deadline is essentially when the ballots must be created and mailed. Got it.
Those ballots need to be created before they can be addressed/mailed. All that takes time, and thus the January 5th deadline. Once the process has started I don’t think it’s practical to scrap ballots and start over.
The real hard deadline is probably between the two, if a SCOTUS opinion dropped on February 11th, it’s probably too late to correct, but if it came in January 6th, they’d probably make a good faith effort to correct it if necessary.
It’s not impossible. This court is extremely right wing and pro-Republican, but some justices are also fanatically religious. And a lot of religious conservatives are souring on the “Trump as orange Jesus” thing, especially educated ones.
If they rule on it fairly quickly, the GOP could still field a religious candidate that shares the justices’ beliefs.
It would lead to a lot of terror attacks in the US, a much larger insurrection attempt, and ruin the Republican Party
The Supreme Court would never put justice above their own interests
Lol, oh wait yeah you’re right. Had to read that last line twice…
Is there much at stake? Biden was very highly likely to win CO to begin with.
It sets the precedent for other states to strike him.
If he ends up not being the candidate in enough states to deny him 270 votes, he’s done.
A win in Georgia would certainly rustle some jimmies.
it would be “nonsensical to imagine the framers of the amendment, fearful of former Confederates returning to power, would bar them from low-level offices but not the highest one in the land” - commented the lawyer
Clarence Thomas just clutched his pearls
Who bought him those pearls, Harlan Crow?
Fucking finally. That one Colorado judge didn’t have the courage to do it (and I understand why), and I’m glad this panel did. I hope they got personal protection, because Trump is effectively a mob boss.
The nice thing is that, now there’s actually a precedent in place, maybe other states will follow on.
That one Colorado judge didn’t have the courage to do it
What’s this?
Judge Sarah B. Wallace
Still, the judge concluded Trump’s “conduct and words were the factual cause of, and a substantial contributing factor” to the attack on the Capitol. She found that Trump “engaged in an insurrection on Jan. 6, 2021 through incitement.”
I watched a lot of that trial, his lawyers were morons and her ruling made no sense. It probably was a safety issue. My guess is that she knew it would go the state supreme court either way, so why make life hard for herself.
Previous judge pretended saying “the Commander in Chief of the military is not an officer of the country” isn’t completely batshit insane.
It was a punt and worded to ensure the higher court took the appeal, which is fine.
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Lame. Ours gives us points and I got a really nice air fryer and an instant pot for my sister.
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Maybe just donate to the Lemmy devs or your favourite instance instead of following in the shitty footsteps of reddit premium badges.
I do believe that was the whole joke.
Edit: not to discount your point.
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We have Boost for Lemmy though…
How do I upvote twice?
Up vote, down vote, up vote.
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Big shoutout to Colorado Secretary of State Jena Griswold for making this happen.
Anywhere in Colorado use paper and pencil anymore? I’m picturing election day when his supporters are so pissed he’s not on the ballot that they write his name in themselves and cast an invalid vote and burn remaining GOP candidates in a blue wave.
So does this mean Bobart might lose since the upballot is gone?
She barely won re-election and is hurting badly for 2024.
she’ll have to win re-election one handie at a time!
ErlichBoebert : Yeah, we’re gonna win even if I have to go into theauditoriumstate and personally jerk off every guy in theaudiencedistrict.
Bonus: if she loses this next election she doesn’t make it to 5 years. 5 years is when you get government health care for life as a congressperson.
All the Trump cultists are calling this election interference, when he literally didn’t have to do an insurrection.
first it was “facts” that were unfair, now it’s due process. they just can’t catch a break in this reality!
Those fuckwads would gladly allow trump to rape their kids live on CSPAN and line up to suck his asshole in gratitude.
What insurrection was this?
Here ya go, hope this helps: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack?wprov=sfla1
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I appreciate that a state is working on this now even though he’s not the nominee yet. It’s an open legal question and it needs to be determined to truly give Republican voters the chance to decide who their nominee should be. If he’s going to be disqualified it should be now.
C’mon Minnesota, follow up with the 1-2 punch!
Minnesota still has Virginia’s Confederate battle flag and refuses to return it, lol. They don’t screw around with traitors!
You’re god damn right! It’s a state tradition for MN governers to tell Virginia to fuck off about having it returned. Strib publishes a story every time it happens lol
I don’t think Virginia has asked for it again recently, I’d like to read Walz’ letter telling Virginia to fuck off. Although his will probably not be as funny as the one Jesse Ventura wrote.
What we really need are Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania.
I’d settle for Texas, California, and New York.