Anyone who is mad about Biden should consider that Trump’s people are ready and willing to nuke the entire Middle East on the chance that it will start the Rapture.
Half a loaf is better than getting shot.
Like, it’s not even a close call. And I’m still not seeing how biden’s actual record isn’t a factor. He’s done a pretty solid job with the resources he’s got. A good chunk of Congress is a terror cell at this point, the supreme Court is stacked with zealots appointed for life, and he’s still managed to get a lot of good stuff done.
He’s managed to get a lot of okay stuff done, which was better than expected.
People keep saying this as though presidents in the past get SHIT LOADS done, when in reality most of them don’t do shit and the Republican ones start wars, give money to the rich and crash the economy.
So you can’t even compare him to previous presidents becuase previous Republican presidents have been DISASTERS.
So we can only really compare him to previous Democrat presidents and I’d say he’s gotten more done than most of them.
At this point, lauding Biden is a waste of time, because the GOPs will go straight to ‘whaddabouts’ and sidetrack the discussion with lies.
I don’t talk about voting for Biden, it’s all about stopping Donnie.
I mean, that’s kind of been the strategy this whole time and it’s not doing very well. Conservatives are a lost cause, we should be soley focused on driving turnout of Democrat voters and people who don’t vote. Those groups are all saying they want something/someone to vote FOR, not just someone to vote against. Donald Trump is clearly an existential threat to our entire democracy, but these people aren’t worried about that. They’re worried about paying their bills. They want someone to make their day to day lives better and Biden has done a lot of things that help every day Americans, theyve just never heard about it.
The pitch needs to be “here’s what we’ve gotten done even with Republicans fighting against all of it along the way. Send me a solid Democratic majority in Congress and we’ll get X, Y, Z done.” Get Jeffries and Schumer to have legislation prepared and ready to go that the caucus will pass without a single GOP vote if necessary. Then, most importantly, follow through and pass that shit.
Biden has accomplished more in 3 years than Obama did in 8.
He is still sending weapons to Israel. Run a non genocidal candidate if you want my help.
Otherwise you will get nothing from me.
Oh yes. Trump will certainly not continue that.
At some point you just have to accept that this will happen and you can’t change it. From that point, pick your best future.
I pick the one that will let me sleep best at night, and knowing I didn’t support genocide will let me sleep great.
It really depends on what a Trump reign will look like, right?
Will he be able to round up tens of millions of people and deport them, as he has promised? Will he institute another Muslim ban, as he has promised? Will he stay in office after his next four year term, as he has said he wants to? Will he use the office of the president to persecute political opponents, as he has promised? Will he “root out” all the “vermin” in the United States, as he had promised? And if yes: who will get declared to be “vermin?” How will they be “rooted out?” Will he make torture legal, as he promised? Will he bring back family separation and child detention camps? Will he threaten nuclear war again? And if yes, will some crazy regime take him up on the offer?
And if all of that or even just a fraction of that comes to pass, will you still sleep well, knowing that you might have been able to stop all of that but voting for the lesser of two evils was just beneath you?
Because ultimately, that’s the decision you’re making.
Yep! People like to try and pretend you can not be neutral but unless I am voting FOR trump then I am not canceling out someone else’s vote.
I won’t help you guys re-elect a genocide supporting president either way.
We keep talking about Israel is not doing enough to stop civilians and wringing our hand while on our knees sucking Netanyahu’s dick and just begging him not to cum on our face because we need to look presentable.
They openly killed journalists, on video, with physical and forensic evidence, right after the journalists switched from recording the Lebanese side to the Israeli side.
While clearly marked as being press.
Defend that, also I am still waiting for those beheaded babies that the IDF used to rile everyone up with.
You know, the one the president you want me to support said he saw and then had to walk back later.
People like to try and pretend you can not be neutral
Refusing to participate doesn’t make you neutral. It makes you complacent.
Are you okay with countries that see what’s happening in Gaza and do nothing so that they don’t have to get involved?
That’s a pretty juvenile take. Not voting doesn’t mean you disapprove of both candidates. It means they are both equal (equally good or equally bad) to you.
And if you think the two are equal because of one thing that they agree on (as bad as that thing is), you mean all the things they disagree on don’t matter (like peaceful transfer of power, lgbtq rights, fascism). And even on that one thing, the two have very different approaches, and one is far more inclined to change position in the future. But apparently that wouldn’t matter either, because they are both equal right now, because they both support Israel right now.
So they both support a genocide, seems like a grand reason to vote for neither.
You don’t get a pity vote for not being as bad as the other guy it just means I won’t vote for him either.
And in a first past the post voting system, like the one we have, your lack of voting mathematically increases the chances of Trump winning. That’s a fact. You are voting for Trump, even if you say you’re not. I’m sure you’ll sleep fine at night, but all the harm he causes will be because you died on a hill that didn’t even mean anything.
No friend I am voting for no one. You can try and twist it however you want, but they’re 3 options -1, 0, and +1.
At this point, I am choosing 0, I could pick -1 by voting for trump.
I might as well by your logic, right?
My not voting is the same as just adding to his total and doesn’t cancel one of someone else’s vote for Biden, right?
Idc what the rest of you do, I will not vote for someone who actively supports genocidal actions.
Why bother voting at all? What changes if you vote for a third option?
Congratulations on handing the W to Trump, Russia and Iran.
I’m not handing anyone shit, I’m just not going to vote for genocide.
Hmm, let’s see where that gets you.
I will sleep great knowing that I in no way supported genocide.
But you do you
What a joke.
I know! I can’t believe that some people are cool with voting for genocide.
You can’t believe it because you know it’s not true.
Not sucking up to Israel and Jewish special interests is an even better way to lose an election.
Ok, better to lose than to directly and unequivocally support genocide.
Did not everyone say it would be better for a Russian soldier to go to jail or just kill themselves instead of fighting Ukrainians?
Why should they kill themselves and the rest of us just support a different kind of genocide?
Is Palestinian skin a little too brown for our support?
And you are okay with letting Ukraine get genocided as well just to shove it to Biden? Trump will only encourage Israel and Putin to keep going so you hate genocide but want to vote for more of it? That’s fucked up.
No, I am deliberately not voting for more of it. Feel free to twist it however you want though.
We buy weapons FROM Israel. Like it or not, Israel is a military asset.
Ok, that changes nothing about what I said.
Well you live in a facist leaning and fascist sympathising country. Now what? Apathy doesn’t seem like the best course of action.
So I should vote to support genocide?
If a vote either way supports genocide and no vote does nothing to stop genocide, what’s the tangible difference?
Israel is bound by treaty to defend Israel as we are allies.
Biden is mostly trying to prevent a shooting war between Israel, Iran and Saudi Arabia. Which would 100% involve nukes and obliterate the global economy for decades. (Imagine all European - Asian oceanic trade just stopping).
That’s why he’s doing it. Hamas is a proxy agent for Iran they are using against Israel.
So I should support guaranteed genocidal actions now to maybe possibly prevent an event that might theoretically happen?
Also, when someone is committing genocidal acts, maybe it is time to break treaty with them.
Let Israel act however it wants without big daddy USA backing them and then let’s see their actions without the biggest military in the world backing them.
They only walk around wagging their ducks because they have backing.
Let them handle their own problems without us and then see how they act.
It is very easy to be a bully when you have a bigger friend to help.
Apt username
As soon as the debate ended, CNN began post-game coverage
This is the problem with US politics. Turn your elections into a sports match and people are gonna tribe up. Total circus.
Turn the news into a for-profit industry, and you get competition for eyes.
While the news has always been a for-profit industry, Citizens United turned election years into billion dollar windfalls for news outfits.
I’m pretty sure that’s why USA Today owns almost all the local papers in my state. They can float the payrolls between election years, or cut a bunch of local reporters and send their own around following primaries in the state with the most campaign money each week.
I don’t believe the news was always for-profit. Early television news actually cost the station money and was provided as a service for the public good. Things took a turn for the worse sometime in the sixties, accelerating through the eighties and devolving into the shitshow we have today.
Is he not aware he’s gonna be gassed with the other browns?
He thinks he’s white. He also pushed the Great Replacement bullshit.
There’s a pretty morbidly interesting interaction between Hindu nationalists and Nazis in that the modern Hindu nationalists seem to think Hitler thought they were “Aryan peoples” and thus he’s not talking about them when he goes on about untermensches.
Which is on the face understandable, given actual history, but is ignorant of so many, many things about the Nazis, primarily that they lived a “race science” fantasy that had absolutely no historical basis.
Not that I know anything about Ramaswamy, but if he is babbling about Great Replacement like he thinks they don’t think he’s the replacer that is probably a big reason why.
Is it because he used their logo?
It’s because nationalists are dumb, ignorant weirdos that don’t live in reality, but they do have that in common with each other, so, ultimately, kinda?
One thing I have learned from GOP in last 3 years is that If you repeat a lie non-stop over and over again it eventually becomes the truth.
The truth to them, not to the rest of the planet.
Unfortunately, it may very well prove to be “truth” to enough people to get Trump re-elected. Remember, we’re now in an era where “Truth isn’t Truth” (Rudy Guiliani) and people are “entitled to their own ‘alternative facts’” (Kellyanne Conway). An era where personal grievances are valued over objective facts, and people will vote against their own best interests just for the possibility of hurting “them”. We are now living in an idiocracy.
Here’s the problem. Donald Trump could say that Biden has monkeys flying out of his ass terrorizing Washington DC in search of bananas. Now, you and I both know that’s ridiculous and, in any sane world, should be ignored for the stupidity it is. But here’s the problem. You can say how stupid the idea is all you want, but if 51% of people you need to vote for you have serious concerns about monkey’s flying out of Biden’s ass, then he needs to either come up a plan to handle flying monkeys, or sit by the wayside as Trump gets re-elected because voters were too concerned over monkeys flying out of his ass.
Trump just throws shit at the wall to see what sticks. If something he says doesn’t resonate, he just starts staying something else. If pushed back on something he said, it was just a joke and you’re being sensitive.
It doesn’t matter how absurd the shit he says, he’ll suddenly tack on “everyone’s saying” or “you know it, I know it, everyone knows it” except the people you don’t like. They’re stopping you from it.
Trump just throws shit at the wall to see what sticks. If something he says doesn’t resonate, he just starts staying something else. If pushed back on something he said, it was just a joke and you’re being sensitive.
The problem is the amount of shit that ends up sticking to the wall.
It doesn’t matter how absurd the shit he says, he’ll suddenly tack on “everyone’s saying” or “you know it, I know it, everyone knows it” except the people you don’t like. They’re stopping you from it.
It’s one of his many tells. When he uses phrases like that, that’s how you know he’s not only full of shit, but knows he’s full of shit. I’ve always wanted to play poker with the man; he’s so god damned stupid I could beat him holding the 2 of diamonds and a basic Forest from Magic: the Gathering.
This is textbook gaslighting right?
Well, GOP does stand for Gaslight Obstruct Project
“CNNs Dana Bash puts microphone in front known liar and is surprised when he lies”
Fucking media. Stop giving attention to these clowns.
Why? They make money from it.
just another bullshit artist
aint you yanks got your fill of that shit yet? fuck.
He’s doing a good job for himself.
Look - he knows he can’t win the primaries. Hes using primaries as a way to get free publicity and look its working.
For all I can see - Trump is going to need a new vice president, all the people in these primaries including Vivek are only running for a VP position. In fact - he has VERY good chances because of skin color and the fact he aligns his views so closely with Trumps
Vivek doesn’t have a chance. He’s so lazy, he’s repeating these ancient conspiracy theories that have long since run their course. Just more evidence that he’s in it for the notoriety, since he can’t be bothered to come up with anything novel.
So this is there plan around releasing the footage. Expect most people to not watch it and gaslight about it?
Strategies used here:
- Gaslighting
- Firehose of Falsehoods
What a massive massive bullshitter. He’ll have a great career as a politician.
He’s scary fucking confident
“Incited”? Why didn’t they just comply? If they had just complied nothing would have happened to them! /s
