cross-posted from: https://kbin.social/m/news@lemmy.world/t/619189
In Murfreesboro, Tennessee, a new city ordinance targeting public homosexuality is hitting libraries. “When in History have the ones banning books been the good guys,” says local activist.
Seriously? So if two women or two men walk down the street holding hands and then kiss each other, they could be arrested for “lewd conduct” while a heterosexual couple doing the same exact thing is left alone? This city ordinance sounds like it’s just waiting for a legal challenge.
LOL, this is begging for a test case. The whole thing’ll get shot down long before that, but I’d still love to see it.
Hell OP, I’ll hold your hand, maybe even slip you some tongue if that what it takes to get this thing in court.
DISCLAIMER: I’m a 52-yo male, not bad looking, you may like it. Hell, I might like it. But we must make sacrifices.
Hell OP, I’ll hold your hand, maybe even slip you some tongue if that what it takes to get this thing in court.
Don’t waste your time, you don’t need to do that anymore. You just need to say that you saw a hypothetical person do this and it would hypothetically upset you and the supreme court will give you standing and ban same sex hand holding as that might lead to sex.
Sounds like a good reason for a bunch of tourists to descend on the town and hold an impromptu pride parade.
But we must make sacrifices.
As I recall, the Scopes trial was exactly one of these. An issue brought to challenge a law. Wait, found it:
The trial was deliberately staged in order to attract publicity to the small town of Dayton, Tennessee, where it was held. Scopes was unsure whether he had ever actually taught evolution, but he incriminated himself deliberately so the case could have a defendant.[2][3]
Wonder how long til they ban mixed race couples jfc
Conservatives are fucking dumb people. Magic book says gay bad! Are guys sucking dicks in this town in public?? Maybe they should ban demons too!
It’s not the magic book. It’s that they’re so horny for cock they can’t think, and if they allowed themselves to think it’s acceptable for a second they’d drown themselves in dick.
I’m sorry, I do not like this very common claim that homophobic people are gay. That basically suggests that gay people are responsible for homophobia. No. Homophobic people are bigots. Some might be gay, some might not be gay, but all of them are bigots. That’s the thing that unites them.
Could you imagine if people argued that all the white people who are racist against black people are actually black people who can pass for white?
They’re definitely bigots, and not all of that is caused by being gay.
However, the number of anti-gay people who are caught doing gay things is pretty damn high, and externalizing personal shame as hatred is a common pathway to it. Also, they’re all so horny they can’t see two people holding hands and not make it a sex thing.
My main point was that it doesn’t matter what the Bible says because they don’t read it, and ignore inconvenient parts all the time.
- That’s been done before. People were getting arrested for “public homosexuality” in the past 40-50 years. At this point, the homophobic cop might beat the crap out of you or charge you with something else, but not for holding hands with another boy.
- This is obviously just conservative virtue signaling and not serious legislation. It’s going to be overturned instantly - I’m actually a bit tempted to fly over there and practice public homosexuality, but I’m pretty sure someone will soon enough.
I’ll like to ask the town’s council members how much of the town’s budget they’re setting aside to defend the law that they’re obviously going to lose, and whether they plan to raise taxes or cut services to pay for it.
I laugh when liberals get all bent by headlines like this. It’s obviously performative and it’s an obvious loss for conservatives. And, as you said, it’s a financial loss for the town as well, and they’ll notice that particular bullshit shit in a small town. Money talks, losers walk (and you can’t touch my 3-lock box, mad 80’s guitar riff).
The Republicans are fucking themselves so fast it’s astonishing. Getting their asses handed to them at the polls, over and over and over again. Reminds me of that Proud Boy jamming a dildo up his own ass on air.
Hell, it’s probably best to encourage this sort of nonsense. Why we fighting 'em when they busy killing themselves?
A couple of hired actors toting, “KILL ALL FAGS!” signs would get it done. LMFAO, and then watch the local politicians try to spin some distance from that message.
“Well, uh, obviously I don’t agree with the format of the message, but, uh, they do have a point. Uh, it’s not that I hate the gays, it’s just that, uh, the Bible, uh…”
tl;dr: Gay hate is losing them elections. Sane people have won, we’re past their messaging tipping point. Please help them keep it up.
From the queer perspective the attitude isn’t charming. When open season gets declared on us talking about it as a “financial loss” or an unpopular move that is a win in the long run ignores that we are being used as fungible tokens in a game rather than people seeing the human cost. When we have to leave a community because we fear for futures losing all our support structures and having to rebuild it is a cold comfort that some politicians might not get elected this month or this year. The brazen hate towards us is treated as classless rather than actually threatening. It is becoming more brazen and in places it is becoming more commonplace…more normal.
Looking at this strictly from an our team vs their team dynamic over who proves morally superior in the end trivializes a lot of the damage done along the way. How often have we been told that we should just give up hope of things getting better and stop bringing immediately life threatening issues to the table because it isn’t politically convenient? We are not pawns we are people.
Guess what my friend? You are a pawn on one side of this chess game. Either press the attack and let the GOP kill itself over gay rights, or… what?
I honestly have no idea how you’re proposing to proceed.
No idea how old you are, but for perspective, gay rights have exploded in leaps and bounds since I was a kid. In the late 80’s, fag bashing was a perfectly acceptable sport. And by god, no one came out the closet. Even men like Freddy Mercury and Elton John weren’t called “gay”. Jesus, what a horrible moniker. They were merely, “light in the loafers”.
Y’all have come a long ways, and have a long way to go. But having seen the right’s reaction to your newfound freedom, and seeing them losing, why not push them harder?
And yes, this might mean violence done to you. Did you think that wasn’t already a thing? Forget about Stonewall?
We’re on the same side, and probably talking past one another. But I’ll fight for you any which way I can.
Not a matter of “how we proceed” but a matter of maybe having a little empathy and urgency? I am trans and gay and an a little under forty. I realize being gay has come a long way. I grew up during the time gay rights were expanding and “gay” was a slur. Right now I am a minority where bashing is happening with protests in the hundreds. There is a decent amount of transphobia I encounter within the gay community itself much less in public. I am not saying not to press the advantage but saying “some liberals get upset when we should be celebrating” is trivializing a lot of the pain happening under the surface and just comes across as tactless to those of us still living our version of the “80’s”.
I get told a lot that maybe the Liberals would be more successful if they just sacrificed our cause to appeal to the Conservatives who might swap sides… As if waiting another four year stint to address things isn’t going to mean wondering if anybody I know is going to die giving up hope things will get better. Heck I have heard variations of this from the gay community as though I am simply an obstacle to greater acceptance and that our moment is gunna be further down the line. "Oh, Not now of course but hold off for that sweet reward that could mean your life gets better… eventually… Once the gay thing is in the bag and we’ve got ours and then can maybe consider if you are actually worth the effort from a place of safety and privilege. Meanwhile get out of our establishment will you? Your desperation isn’t quite matching the vibe. " The number of gay folk flaunting their gayness on the anti-trans picketlines meanwhile is still a thing. The LGBTQ+ no man left befind mantra is deliberate because we know that callousness has a cost. To quote Catch 22 "The enemy is anybody who’s going to get you killed, no matter which side he is on. It doesn’t make a damned bit of difference who wins the war to someone who’s dead.’
“You are a pawn get used to it” is not the talk of an ally, it’s the sound of someone openly discussing the opportunity to make you a martyr.
It’s obviously performative
Until a gay couple gets thrown into the local jail for violating the ordinance.
Trolling doesnt work against the right. They are imbecilic bullies with the sensibility of terrorists when they don’t get their way.
You have to respond forcefully and without fear in the face of this simpleton, hate fueled discrimination.
Do not let them take any ground, this is a war for the soul of liberty.
Gotta ban that Bible then, considering the amount of dude love that’s completely Innocent but by their definition would be homosexual.
Some of it wasn’t all that innocent too. Like the words of David from 2 Samuel 1:26
I am distressed for thee, my brother Jonathan: very pleasant hast thou been unto me: thy love to me was wonderful, passing the love of women.
Judas thought giving Jesus a smooch was a subtle signal
Wow, that town really loves paying lawyers’ fees—their own and the other side’s.
The Murfree Brood. That’s really all that needs to be said.
That’s an insult to the Murfree Brood
Nearly every act of homophobia, transphobia, racism, misogyny and xenophobia and other bigotry ever commited in history has been committed by conservatives.
Teach your children why it is immoral to employ or keep relationships with conservatives. Marginalize hate by marginalizing conservatives.
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Hello, police? I’d like to report some faggotry in the Murfreesboro city council chambers.
