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They would have 40 electoral college votes in 2024.
If they secede, that would also mean losing 2 Senators and 38 Representatives, changing the balance of power in the House and Senate.
Don’t threaten me with a good time!
Edit I also want to see Ted Cruz’s face when he learns he’s not a Senator anymore because Texas seceded.
Oh no. Democrats would need to find two additional no votes to block anything progressive.
Rafeal Cruz. We must respect this man’s choice to only recognize the name on the birth certificate
He would just move to Florida
Cruz would finally have a shot at becoming a president.
lol. Please 🙏
GOP would not win the presidency for 20 years at least
It would also reduce the number needed to win.
538 EC votes / 2 = 269. 50%+1 for the win so 270.
Texas drops out, so now it goes from 538 to 498. / 2 = 249. 50%+1=250 to win.
And suddenly 270towin.com needs a new CNAME.
Just playing around with what something like that might look like:
Texas is not the swing state…
Yeah, Texas is a reliable GOP vote. Which means losing it would be a massive blow to GOP electoral chances.
Not all of us, just need more of y’all to move here and water down their vote. Problem is the germandering makes populated places less impacting than the uneducated rural areas.
There’s enough of us here to do it already, we just need to actually go out and vote and we can win the state-wide and presidential elections here. In 2020 Biden received more votes in Texas than in New York. The metro area populations of Houston, Austin, Dallas, and San Antonio are more than half the state population. If Harris County’s efforts to expand mail-in voting (by sending mail-in ballots to all ~2.4M registered voters in the county) Biden may have won the state, as he only lost by ~620k.
I vote every time and post in the Austin community as much as I dare to encourage others. That’s about all I can do.
Gerrymandering has a very limited effect on presidential elections, which is what was mentioned.
It still has a big indirect impact. People are less likely to vote if they feel like their vote doesn’t matter as much, and someone in a heavily gerrymandered state does in fact have their vote matter less, at least locally. Turnout would probably be measurably higher if the districts were fair or competitive.
There are other indirect effects too - there are plenty of states where Republicans are only able to pass voter-suppressing policies because of the legislative edge they hold thanks to gerrymandering.
Voter suppression and other unequal access to voting make a big difference. For instance, the “one drop off box per county” bs they schemed up, inadequate in-person facilities in urban areas leading to long lines, and how people don’t get voting day off work. Not to mention the fascist chuds planning to stand around with guns at voting facilities to “monitor”.
That’s why removing it will have such a big impact
Yeah, but a lot of conservatives would probably migrate.
To Texas? Please and thank you! I’d start a GoFundme to help them get their faster.
Please, for Christ’s sake, just leave. Have the plebiscite. Take it to Congress. Let them release you on the condition that all Americans in Texas be allowed to emigrate, fully compensated, and all wannabe Texans are allowed to immigrate, fully compensated, for the next 6 months.
Oh, and we keep the military equipment. I’m sure their ‘well-regulated militia’ will be enough for them.
Also we’ll build a wall at the Texas-US borders, but not because we think it’ll be effective, just because it’ll be hilariousWe’ll leave it there for convenience when we invade since they will be an unstable oil rich nation in need of freedom.
Ugh, no, let them stay out. We don’t need a Resource Trap country to try nation-building on, pretty sure we already tried that one.
Not 80s-90s era ‘nation building’, 40s era reconstruction. If nazi germany is salvageable we can probably figure texas out with the correct level of commitment.
OMFG I hope they do. They could no longer bus immigrants to other states and would have no other choice but to police their border with Mexico entirely on their own without any federal support. Fucking dumbasses.
we really shouldn’t act like Texas was the only one doing that.
It’s the only state I’ve heard of doing it. Were there others? Source?
Florida/DeSantis did it at least once last year. Although Texas was seemingly heavily involved in that too…
So nowhere in the article is it mentioned that the supposed “Texas right to secede” is actually bullshit, and a complete misunderstanding of the actual right that they have, which is to be broken up into five separate states.
Except even that is bullshit, because it was talking about the Texas Territory, which was larger than modern day Texas.
The constitution clearly says that;
New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.
So yes, Texas could request to be broken up, but congress still needs to okay it.
Now, as to the “right to secede”, that bullshit was settled with the Civil War, States do not have the right to secede, not even Texas.
Republicans like to pretend the Civil War never happened, and want a repeat, I guess.
That’s true, though to be fair most secessions are illegal and are settled by violence.
I’d love to see that happen.
Do you think the US would leave it’s army and it’s nukes in a different country just like that? Texas has a fun economy
Then the Republican party would lose a large red state, we would finally be rid of Republican presidents and houses, no more extremist bullshit to deal with.
The US would flourish again and go truly MAGA as it no longer had to deal with the Republican shit.
Texas has shit infrastructure that they don’t manage well enough to keep up, it would be a hoot
Texas is home to some of the largest military installations on the planet (Fort Bliss and Fort Cavazos) - the federal economic footprint these (and Lackland, and JSB Carswell and a dozen others) bring to their local economies is massive. Hell, the defense industry footprint in texas is ridiculously large (existing and future helos & fixed wing f22/f35 production) - removing them from Texas would crater their economy.
I tend to look at this like another grift to skin more funds from the stupids.
Yeah, nobody currently in charge would be stoopid enough to do this, but then again each subsequent Republican generation becomes dumber and starts doing the things the previous generation only threatened for money and power. I see them dumb enough to try this 10 years down the road
Joint Base San Antonio is essentially three bases that almost surround most of San Antonio.
As if the feds are just going to walk away from that AND NASA? No way.
I’m not sure Texas is thinking this through. We’d build a wall and make them pay for it…
Y’know, if Texas secedes, we won’t have to change the flag and remove a star if we make Puerto Rico a state. Just sayin’.
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Oh yes please. The next hurricane that hits we won’t have to pay for, and when they freeze or melt because their electrical grid collapses we can just watch.
Texas is one of the few financially functional red states so that wouldn’t be a concern. No clue whether they’d maintain their finances if they seceded.
How financially functional do you think they’ll be when they lose all the trade agreements of the US and the ability to freely trade with the other states?
I have no clue, and anyone on the internet who says they do is dubious at best. It’s an incredibly complex question.
It didn’t go so hot after Brexit, I can’t imagine why we should expect Texit to go better.
Do they still have lots of oil?
That’s a fairly widely traded commodity so probably would help buffer against impacts on other industries of trade instability. Though they might have to consider higher tax on oil or something.
Does Texas have lots of oil, or do oil companies have lots of oil that happens to be located in Texas?
ITT: A bunch of people who don’t realize Texas is nearly purple, but gerrymandered to hell. There are millions of us who are blue.
don’t let the door hit you in your racist ass. good luck with that whole electricity thing, we’re proud to welcome refugee from The Christian Republic of Trumpistan
Texas was a slave state & fought for the Confederacy. They mustn’t secede now for the same reason as back then- they will absolutely terrorize & abuse every minority person they can in that would-be despotic shithole.
If you’re going to say “good riddance”, look every woman, poor, black, and lgbt person there in the eye as you do, because those are the people you’re throwing to the wolves.
3rd time is the charm!
Good luck with that. Yes, one of the major ports in the US is there, lots of military, oil and gas, etc. However, leaving the US, particularly with the local gov having a hard-on for dictatorial bullshit, would basically immediately prove a danger to the US as it could threaten security by (a) having all the left-over military assets but also (b) they could theoretically invite Russia or someone to build a base in Texas and the US will be having none of that. Succession almost certainly means war almost immediately.
I doubt the DoD would just let those assets remain in Texas if the state chooses to secede. They’d likely take it all back, and position it strategically to protect against a now hostile foreign nation.
… at least, that’s what I’m hoping for as a piece of “military property”.
Please, JFC, don’t leave us here!
Don’t let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.
My reaction: when Michael Scott finds out that Toby is back, but the exact opposite.
