Washington and Kiev are negotiating a bilateral security agreement that mirrors the 10-year commitments Ukraine has entered into with several European powers.
We are not talking about “most” Nato countries. We are talking about the ex-soviet countries.
You didn’t believe that ex-soviet countries were afraid of russia because Nato countries didn’t spend a lot of money on Military. But when you look at the individual countries, not at nato as a whole, those ex-soviet countries that joined Nato meet the 2% minimum (and like i said Poland even doubles it with 3.98%)
Another thing to consider is the capabilities of Russia
Russia has invaded Ukraine and bombed it to Rubbles. Russia is very much capable of attacking and destroying its Neighbours. Just take a Plane to Ukraine if you don’t belive it.
and it is illogical that Russia would attack a NATO country
Good. That means NATO is working in keeping the Russians away.
And btw, 2 years ago i personally would have declared you crazy if you told me that Russia was going to attack Ukraine. The Facts have been laid open to us. We can adapt and change to live in the new reality or live in denial.
Ukraine is a security concern for Russia, not for the United States, or the rest of Europe
Ukraine is a independent Country that is allowed to decide for itself what it wants
And yes it is a security concern for Europe since it’s right in its backyard, right on its Border.
And it is even a security concern since it’s a huge producer of Food, and if that food doesn’t get to Africa etc, those regions could become unstable and global terrorist attacks could rise again.
Now, does that allow the EU or the US to dictate Ukraine what it should do? NO! because Ukraine is a independent Country that is allowed to carve its own way! The same way that Russia isn’t allowed to interfer in Ukraine because of its supposed “security interests”
Do you support the Blockade on Cuba?
since it wants to control the world and export its culture
Russia literally is invading its Neighbours because it can’t control them. Russia is the one that spend decades forcefully “russoficating” eastern Europe.
Fascist believe in autarky and see every single nation or country as a threat
Go onto russian State TV. Quote from Russian State TV: “We have no friends in the World, only Enemies”
The US constantly talks about how important it is to work with their Allies. Who is the Fascist now?
The US has toppled far more governments than the Russians did in their entire history
excuse me what? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_involvement_in_regime_change
lets not forget all the eastern block.
Well, technically you’re correct, they didn’t topple the baltics, ukraine, eastern Poland, they flat out annexed it. But I’m pretty sure that’s actually worse
When you are forcing other countries to become liberal, that is fascism.
What? i think you don’t know what fascism means, is that possible?
I think you also don’t know what “liberal” means?
I think you also don’t know how countries become liberal?
That is illogical to claim that NATO is keeping Russia at bay, then claiming that they are a threat. If Russia was a threat, then the majority of NATO did spend according to the threat level.
The US is far more fascist than Russia. Explain the difference between Russia and US, and what makes one fascist compared to the other.
That is illogical to claim that NATO is keeping Russia at bay, then claiming that they are a threat
If i am using a spear to keep a Wolf at bay, is that Wolf not a threat anymore?
If someone wants to rob me and i point a gun at them go keep them at bay, are they not a threat anymore?
I rest my case, your honour.
why is russia fascist?
idk, wanting to conquer your neighbours and ethnically cleanse them isn’t good enough for you? Not having any elections, political voilence and assasinations, no deviation from party-line, force-conscripting young men, absolutely no regard for human live (ukrainian or russian), dreams of a greater russian Reich
We are not talking about “most” Nato countries. We are talking about the ex-soviet countries.
You didn’t believe that ex-soviet countries were afraid of russia because Nato countries didn’t spend a lot of money on Military. But when you look at the individual countries, not at nato as a whole, those ex-soviet countries that joined Nato meet the 2% minimum (and like i said Poland even doubles it with 3.98%)
Russia has invaded Ukraine and bombed it to Rubbles. Russia is very much capable of attacking and destroying its Neighbours. Just take a Plane to Ukraine if you don’t belive it.
Good. That means NATO is working in keeping the Russians away.
And btw, 2 years ago i personally would have declared you crazy if you told me that Russia was going to attack Ukraine. The Facts have been laid open to us. We can adapt and change to live in the new reality or live in denial.
Ukraine is a independent Country that is allowed to decide for itself what it wants
And yes it is a security concern for Europe since it’s right in its backyard, right on its Border. And it is even a security concern since it’s a huge producer of Food, and if that food doesn’t get to Africa etc, those regions could become unstable and global terrorist attacks could rise again.
Now, does that allow the EU or the US to dictate Ukraine what it should do? NO! because Ukraine is a independent Country that is allowed to carve its own way! The same way that Russia isn’t allowed to interfer in Ukraine because of its supposed “security interests”
Do you support the Blockade on Cuba?
Russia literally is invading its Neighbours because it can’t control them. Russia is the one that spend decades forcefully “russoficating” eastern Europe.
Go onto russian State TV. Quote from Russian State TV: “We have no friends in the World, only Enemies” The US constantly talks about how important it is to work with their Allies. Who is the Fascist now?
excuse me what? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_involvement_in_regime_change lets not forget all the eastern block. Well, technically you’re correct, they didn’t topple the baltics, ukraine, eastern Poland, they flat out annexed it. But I’m pretty sure that’s actually worse
What? i think you don’t know what fascism means, is that possible? I think you also don’t know what “liberal” means? I think you also don’t know how countries become liberal?
That is illogical to claim that NATO is keeping Russia at bay, then claiming that they are a threat. If Russia was a threat, then the majority of NATO did spend according to the threat level. The US is far more fascist than Russia. Explain the difference between Russia and US, and what makes one fascist compared to the other.
Which Countries Meet NATO’s 2% Spending Target? - https://www.visualcapitalist.com/which-countries-meet-natos-spending-target/
If i am using a spear to keep a Wolf at bay, is that Wolf not a threat anymore?
If someone wants to rob me and i point a gun at them go keep them at bay, are they not a threat anymore?
I rest my case, your honour.
idk, wanting to conquer your neighbours and ethnically cleanse them isn’t good enough for you? Not having any elections, political voilence and assasinations, no deviation from party-line, force-conscripting young men, absolutely no regard for human live (ukrainian or russian), dreams of a greater russian Reich
You want me to go on?
It’s on their own Website. Open the PDF. https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_197050.htm