• Amoxtli@thelemmy.clubOP
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    Tell us, what did the evil Chinese do to Hong Kong? Please inform me. Hong Kong belongs to China, that is why the British gave it back to them. It is the British colonialism, the reason why Hong Kong was under British control. China does not take too kindly to Western imperialism by historical experience. You bet they are not giving up Taiwan to the United States.

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      West taiwan is under illegitimate rule tho.

      And Russia invaded Ukraine before USA got involved.

      In fact trump let them take crimea already so you’re pretty misinformed here.

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        Also, I don’t know why you involve Trump. Trump is a non-establishment candidate. He is not a warmonger. Joe Biden is a warmonger, and he was part of the team that was deeply involved in Ukraine. Crimea was lost under Obama, not Trump. Remember, Quid Pro Quo Joe, and “**** the EU” Victoria Nuland? Why would Victoria Nuland say “**** the EU”? If you could explain that part.

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        Russia invaded after Ukrainian nationalist and US operatives, Victoria Nuland, and her associates were involved in a coup. This is a fact. We have a leaked recording of her and her colleague discussing which person they want to groom for public office in Ukraine. There is no denying that. The question is, how deep was the US involved in Ukraine? That, we don’t have hard evidence that is currently available for public and scholarly consumption.

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      If you didn’t notice the crackdowns in Hong Kong a couple years back, and haven’t noticed the stream of political refugees from Hong Kong afterwards, I can’t help you.

      China signed an agreement when the UK gave up Hong Kong, and they blatantly broke that agreement. There really aren’t that many complicating factors.

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        Hong Kong people did not want to be ruled by the CCP. There were no human rights abuses regarding the Hong Kong riots. Chinese handled the riots well and the riots subsided. There was no Chinese “crackdown”. What Americans are doing to anti-Israel protestors right now is far worse than what the Chinese supposedly did to the rioters in Hong Kong. You are clearly biased and have no interest in the facts. You are very one-sided; you are presenting speculation and even misinformation to give a false presentation of infallible Western countries. Hillary came up with a term regarding Tucker Carlson, the irony is that “term” is appropriate to people who believe, and follow Hillary Clinton, and the establishment she is a part of; yes, the Deep State is the establishment. Western governments looted Libya, war after war, lies after lies, and you imply I live in rock ignorant to the history of sins of the West. That false story does not work on me. I deal with facts, not hearsay, or semi-truths with great omissions.

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          There was no Chinese “crackdown”

          Lol. You apparently do live under a rock… Like, have you actually spoken to anyone that was there? I have, and they’ve either experienced more or less severe police brutality and dissappearings, or claim that the Chinese government is full of saints that could never do harm. You know, if you don’t mistreat your population, you won’t have to spend resources on undercover out-of-country police stations, and on sending people to other countries to report on “disloyal citizens”.

          That could save you quite some resources in the long run, just a tip.

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            There are Westerners who live in China, and none of them think China is evil. In fact, I know somehow who lives in China and had positive things to say about China. The US is far more criminal than China such as supporting genocide in Gaza which makes no strategic sense to be part of a campaign as support to bomb civilians. US has no moral standing to object to anything it claims is wrong. A sovereign country that is not entangled in alliances and operates on its own interests, what country looks like that? China is an example. The US is scared of China because they are becoming big and powerful. It creates anxiety and paranoia. Russia was never a threat after the fall of the USSR. A threat does not retreat backwards without a single shot fired. The US was taking advantage of the opportunity to expand NATO against Russia, when it was made well known, that it does not find that acceptable.

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              Congrats on knowing a person that had something positive to say about China, that must make you proud!

              It’s just laughable that you’re actually swallowing the Chinese propaganda that they want countries “internal affairs” to be left alone, when everybody can see how they’re treating the south-west pacific. China is a country with major imperialistic intentions, that believes they have the right to shove any smaller country in the region out of their way, and it’s obvious by their actions. Just look at recent events in the Philippine sea once you get out from under your rock.

              Saying that Russia, the country that is actively engaged in a war of aggression that has killed hundreds of thousands of people, is “not a threat” is just so dumb it’s not even funny. Also, saying that they “retreated backwards”, when they weren’t even capable of sticking within their own borders is beyond stupid.

              Point me to a Democratic NATO country that has expanded its borders by force after ascending to NATO, and I’ll give you permission to pat yourself on the back.