Mark Newton (@NewtonMark@eigenmagic.net)
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Attached: 1 image Slack is now using all content, including DMs, to train LLMs. They offer a thing they're calling an "opt-out." The opt-out (a) is only available to companies who are slack customers, not end users, and (b) doesn't actually opt-out. When a company account holder tries to opt-out, Slack says their data will still be used to train LLMs, but the results won't be shared with other companies. LOL no. That's not an opt-out. The way to opt-out is to stop using Slack. https://slack.com/intl/en-gb/trust/data-management/privacy-principles

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/15741608

They offer a thing they’re calling an “opt-out.”

The opt-out (a) is only available to companies who are slack customers, not end users, and (b) doesn’t actually opt-out.

When a company account holder tries to opt-out, Slack says their data will still be used to train LLMs, but the results won’t be shared with other companies.

LOL no. That’s not an opt-out. The way to opt-out is to stop using Slack.

https://slack.com/intl/en-gb/trust/data-management/privacy-principles

        • thepaperpilot@incremental.social
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          6 months ago

          For matrix specifically, I recommend fluffy chat on mobile and cinny for web/desktop. Most notably, they both support the not-yet-official spec on custom emojis and stickers, which I think is important for any slack-like.

          For the server (since you want to self host), you’d probably want to do Synapse - it supports not being federated as well as SSO. Also it wasn’t mentioned by mp3, but xmpp is another protocol that’s used by many large companies for internal chat systems as well.

      • jqubed@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        6 months ago

        Does IRC still exist? I remember laughing when I first saw Slack and its early competitors because people were excited about it and when I finally used it I realized it was basically just IRC with a nicer interface. I’m assuming these offer improvements like encryption?

        • just another dev@lemmy.my-box.devEnglish
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          6 months ago

          Nah, there’s tons of features that slack has over irc. To start with inline media (images, audio, video), but most importantly lots of out of the box external integrations and webhooks.

          • jqubed@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            6 months ago

            Yeah, now there is, but I don’t think a lot of those features were in when I first used it over a decade ago. It became a lot more useful over the years.

            • Kushan@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              6 months ago

              It didn’t require using arcane commands just to sign up and log in. I love IRC and will always remember it fondly, but it wasn’t easy for a novice to use and that’s why things like slack and discord took off.

        • ryguyflyguy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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          6 months ago

          Unless you’re setting it up for a business, the free tier should be enough. They have options for both self-hosting and hosted versions

          • tsonfeir@lemm.eeEnglish
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            6 months ago

            It’s a business with 300 users, but only about 50 of them would even use it. The others DO need accounts for the one time per month they login. But with their pricing, and SSO plan, that’s $3000/m

            What… the… fuck.

            I am in the wrong business lol.