• @ultranaut@lemmy.world
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    155 months ago

    I would go back further to the Dubya days and say it’s been clear since that era that Pelosi was not great and new leadership was necessary.

    • @trash80@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      25 months ago

      How times have changed. Many people said that Pelosi was too liberal back then.

      Given the glee that’s emanating from the conservative commentariat over Nancy Pelosi’s near-certain ascension to House minority leader, you’d think the Democrats were about to turn into acid-dropping Merry Pranksters riding around in the Furthur bus, just because their new leader represents Haight-Ashbury. Cal Thomas wrote that Pelosi’s election “will have given Republicans two major victories in less than 10 days.” An identical message—Nancy Pelosi, good for the Republicans—came from the National Review’s John J. Miller and the Wall Street Journal editorial page. In the Weekly Standard, David Brooks called Pelosi “the most caricaturable politician since Newt Gingrich,” and the term “Pelosi Democrats” has already replaced “Daschle Democrats” as the GOP’s Democratic slur of choice.

      And it’s not just Republicans beating up on Pelosi. Although no Democrat has yet to concur with the assertion of a Washington Times columnist that she is a Manchurian Candidate for Socialist International, there’s not a lot of joy in Moderateville. The New Republic’s Peter Beinart worries that Pelosi will lead the Democrats into a “40-60 nation.” Newsweek’s Jonathan Alter says Pelosi’s leadership “makes the Democratic caucus look more dovish than even the French.” In Slate, Joe Klein dubbed Pelosi “the very sort of political anachronism the party should studiously avoid.”

      https://web.archive.org/web/20150327142811/http://beta.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/assessment/2002/11/nancy_pelosi.html

      • @ultranaut@lemmy.world
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        45 months ago

        I remember that too and it was obviously a bunch of nonsense back then. It’s just people playing politics and trying to frame the discourse in ways that favor their side. The quotes there are pretty funny, Alter doing some warmongering and Klein calling the kettle black.

        • @trash80@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          15 months ago

          It’s just people playing politics

          Well, it is politics. I understand what you mean though.

          The quotes there are pretty funny, Alter doing some warmongering and Klein calling the kettle black.

          It’s incredible how differently people viewed the war in Iraq then.