Jellyfin + rip your movies off the dvds. You can even invite your friends to watch your movies too.

You know. Like we used to be able to.

Fuck late stage capitalism and every greedy little pig out there. Hope you lose your mansions, cars, and expensive toys. You can live down here with the rest of us at a perfectly reasonable level.

These people are not actual religious worshippers though. This is activism. There’s a difference between the two groups

Edit: here’s some additional information, should you be interested - https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/faq

It makes sense though. They ruin the educational system, poison the waters and tell everyone that its a waste of time and effort, and muddy the waters to make understanding harder. Anyone who ever left the hood will tell you - education is fucking everything.

The ones who piss and moan the loudest are often times themselves the biggest offenders, I.e projection, after all

Would be lying if I said I didn’t check that this wasn’t nottheonion

Where are you from?

It’s pretty simple. He failed to help out average people, but people mistake current actions with current administration. Some bills and other items don’t take effect for years to come (including the bills trump put in which were now seeing tank things for the middle class again)

People, so long as they are not educated and kept busy, will not ever look past surface level findings, and the era we are in, is very much so complicated and well below surface level. That’s the reality.

If you seriously can get behind a tyrant who’s literally said he’d jail opponents, media, etc. then that’s symptomatic of the class/culture in your area. That purely anti American and if you can’t see that you are beyond talking to.

We cannot afford to have trump back in office again. Vote. Fight for others rights to vote. Do whatever you can, when you can, how you can. Every little bit matters and unity against the nation of kings is vital if we’re serious about real change for ALL.

Time to remove these leaches and treat the infection.

Look man I’m an adult, you may talk to me like one

I used the term consumer when discussing things from a business sense, ie we’re talking about big businesses and implementations of technology. It’s also in part due to the environment I live in.

You’ve also dodged my whole counter point to bring up a new point you could argue.

I think we’re done with this convo tbh. You’re moving goal posts and trying to muddy water

I can see where you’re coming from - however I disagree on the premise that “the reality is that (rationale) the control of AI is in the hands of the mega corps”. AI has been a research topic not done solely by huge corps, but by researchers who publish these findings. There are several options out there right now for consumer grade AI where you download models yourself, and run them locally. (Jan, Pytorch, TensorFlow, Horovod, Ray, H2O.ai, stable-horde, etc many of which are from FAANG, but are still, nevertheless, open source and usable by anyone - i’ve used several to make my own AI models)

Consumers and researchers alike have an interest in making this tech available to all. Not just businesses. The grand majority of the difficulty in training AI is obtaining datasets large enough with enough orthogonal ‘features’ to ensure its efficacy is appropriate. Namely, this means that tasks like image generation, editing and recognition (huge for medical sector, including finding cancers and other problems), documentation creation (to your credit), speech recognition and translation (huge for the differently-abled community and for globe-trotters alike), and education (I read from huge public research data sets, public domain books and novels, etc) are still definitely feasible for consumer-grade usage and operation. There’s also some really neat usages like federated tensorflow and distributed tensorflow which allows for, perhaps obviously, distributed computation opening the door for stronger models, run by anyone who will serve it.

I just do not see the point in admitting total defeat/failure for AI because some of the asshole greedy little pigs in the world are also monetizing/misusing the technology. The cat is out of the bag in my opinion, the best (not only) option forward, is to bolster consumer-grade implementations, encouraging things like self-hosting, local operation/execution, and creating minimally viable guidelines to protect consumers from each other. Seatbelts. Brakes. Legal recourse for those who harm others with said technology.

I do not want that for anyone. AI is a tool that should be kept open to everyone, and trained with consent. But as soon as people argue that its only a tool that can harm, is where I’m drawing the line. That’s, in my opinion, when govts/ruling class/capitalists/etc start to put in BS “safeguards” to prevent the public from making using of the new power/tech.

I should have been more verbose and less reactionary/passive aggressive in conveying my message, its something I’m trying to work on, so I appreciate your cool-headed response here. I took the “you clearly don’t know what ludites are” as an insult to what I do or don’t know. I specifically was trying to draw attention to the notion that AI is solely harmful as being fallacious and ignorant to the full breadth of the tech. Just because something can cause harm, doesn’t mean we should scrap it. It just means we need to learn how it can harm, and how to treat that. Nothing more. I believe in consent, and I do not believe in the ruling minority/capitalist practices.

Again, it was an off the cuff response, I made a lot of presumptions about their views without ever having actually asking them to expand/clarify and that was ignorant of me. I will update/edit the comment to improve my statement.

You’ll notice I used the lower case L which implies I’m referring to a term, likely as it’s commonly used today. (edit: this isn’t an excuse to ruin the definition or history of what luddites were trying to do, this was wrong of me)

Further, explain to me how this is different from what the luddites stood for, since you obviously know so much more and I’m so off base with this comment.

edit: exactly. just downvote and don’t actually make any sort of claim. Muddy that water! edit 2: shut up angsty past me.

[Edited] I agree that we should be taking consent more seriously. Especially when it comes to monetizing off the back of donations. That’s just outright wrong. However, I don’t think we should consider scrapping it all or putting in extraneous/consumer damaging ‘safe guards’. There are lots of things that can cause harm, and I’ll argue almost anything can be used to harm people. That’s why its our jobs to carefully pump the breaks on progress, so that we can assess what risk is possible, and how to treat any wounds that may incurr. For example, invading a country to spread ‘democracy’ and leaving things like power gaps behind, causing more damage than what was there orginally. It’s a very very thing rope we walk across, but we can’t afford, in todays age, to slow down too far. We face a lot of serious problems that need more help, and AI can fill that gap in addition to being a fun, creative outlet. We hold a lot of new power here, and I just don’t want to see that squandered away into the pockets of the ruling class.

I don’t think anyone should take luddites seriously tbh (edit: we should take everyone seriously, and learn from mistakes while also potentially learning forgotten lessons)