• PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat
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    20 days ago

    I don’t think that most progressive groups doing actual organizing are doing these kind of purity tests

    Maybe not. The leftist people I know definitely do, to the point that it’s pretty obnoxious, but they are also not involved in any protest.

    I read up about whether there’s any reality to this issue I imagine, and found this kind of stuff:

    https://jacobin.com/2021/09/occupy-wall-street-ows-zuccotti-park-nyc-labor-movement-unions-collaboration

    https://newrepublic.com/article/175645/left-labor-emerging-political-coalition

    So, if we’re assuming that what I can find is representative of what the real issues are, it sounds to me like it’s a little less about “LGBTQ issues versus economic issues” than I was saying, and more about “work with the Democrats versus abandon the Democrats” which causes the rift between the activist left and the established union membership.

    We can help any grouping and gather support from any grouping, without needing to say we need to put the brakes on and help some other more virtuous-to-advocate-for grouping instead.

    I’m interested in what examples you are thinking of, for this.

    Any Democrat? They talk frequently about issues of social justice, race, LGBTQ (with trans issues as maybe an outlier they hesitate to touch on), and very very rarely do they touch on economic justice with anything but the most oblique of “we have to get inflation under control” references.