• ForestOrca
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      No, not for even a nano-second. Been hoping and expecting this to come out.

    • andrew
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      I think, per usual, we’re going to pretend this is a witch hunt and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with any of this but the Dems are fighting dirty so now they’re justified in fighting dirty too!

    • @mosiacmango@lemm.ee
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      The president’s pardon power is so ill-defined, that might actually be legal. No one has so blatantly put it to the test before in 250 years, so we dont actually know.

      The conservative supreme court did rule that bribery is only bribery if you explicitly state “i am bribing you for this, with this” which makes a lot of sense when you see how many times Clarence Thomas has gotten “free loans” and “here’s a house, some tuition and some vacations, pal” in his career. Not to mention the slightly lesser grifts by Roberts and Alito.

      Since the 2mil was for an “audience” and not a pardon, I bet it actually wasent illegal. Just deeply, deeply immoral and “should be illegal, but the conservatives on the high court are on the take” so its not.

      • @KevonLooney@lemm.ee
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        No, it would be illegal if the intent was clear. All the communications beforehand would establish that a pardon is needed. Things are not actually negotiated with a wink and nod.

    • @Nobody@lemmy.world
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      The Constitution was written by a generation who lived and died on their reputation and integrity. It never occurred to them that a criminal with absolutely zero shame about being a criminal could get elected president. The system wasn’t designed to handle someone like Trump.

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    Unfortunately, the people whos opinion or behavior would change based on this information, will just take the news as proof that the deep state corrupt leftist “russia hoax” is real.

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    That “uh-oh” suggests we should be sympathetic to Giuliani. I don’t think so.

  • BlanketsWithSmallpox
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    Wait, how is Giuliani and his Russian agents also being charged at the same time as the Giuliani FBI ‘whistleblower’?

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      Idk about Ghouliani but…

      Ukraine’s Security Service notified Rudy Giuliani’s top Ukrainian allies on Monday that they are suspects of treason, citing evidence that the officials participated in activities aiding Russian President Vladimir Putin.

      Maybe they help us out and take a look into the FBI for us.

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    The same Giuliani who hung out with dodgy Russian businessmen & corrupt Ukrainian officials. Who conspired to oust the US ambassador to Ukraine and who took money for “consultancy” on bogus Ukraine projects. These new revelations SHOCK me.